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Post by na00 on Jan 10, 2014 14:29:11 GMT -5
Since we already have a release date, I've asked the admin to create a subforum for the new game.
It's actually coming out way before I expected it to. Let's hope it's not rushed.
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Post by chrnos on Jan 13, 2014 18:33:27 GMT -5
Done, sorry for it being late.
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MorisatoK
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Post by MorisatoK on Jan 18, 2014 4:44:25 GMT -5
For completeness here is the video of the christmas event, gameplay starts at around 10min and is heavily focused on Manaka: + Models (nose!) and textures seem to be slightly better as far as can be told by YT quality... + Camera is still in the UI + New trip location and saveable progress + 3D backgrounds seem to be a bit smoother (higher fps?) + The waitress in the background looking busy cleaning the same four glasses for nearly an hour - Not sure about the new kissing, seems awfully hard to get the number of kisses up... Has it been this way in LP? I honestly can't remember right now.
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Post by .:[R]Plus:. on Jan 18, 2014 6:45:48 GMT -5
i did read somewhere that they upped the motion quality of the characters to give them more realism.. so motion is much smoother and also backgrounds and the whole look is more polished, i guess dropping the horizontal 3D stereoscopic view was a good idea cause they now gave priority and more detail to other stuff that were suffering cause of the two view option.
the new kissing sequence is definitely a bit buggy and a product of some bad management. it seems that during the touching if you miss even one star you might as well give up. in order to fill in that orange heart and progress to skinship you need all 5 stars to go pink(in LP/LP+ if you succeeded in 3/5 you were ok or else you were escorted out of the process instead of continuing collecting for something that is not happening) and you only get a successful star now when the public eyes are fully shut. during skinship the clock runs very fast and you barely have enough time to collect just one pink heart(no more 5 kisses?!) but during one of their attempts the portion is stuck and doesn't go up at all(bug at 11:30). then after the other guy(杉田智和) finally succeeded in filling in one pink heart he get's the multiple option and clicks the option 'キスていい...?(/wanna kiss?)' but then the kiss just disappears without physically receiving it,lol...also..he plays 3 days in skip mode and his status hearts don't seem to go up one bit.(a bug that shouldn't go unnoticed or he is just full and all the full subject hearts have that dull/off crimson color, hard to tell) and then notice how it's no longer visually available to the player if you're doing the skinship correctly.(notice you no longer get a colored line forming when you touch her to indicate if you're touching a good-red line or a bad spot-blue line it's just a stream of yellow stars now till you get a good or bad heart reaction that demolishes what you've collected).
does it look more interesting than their first attempt in NLP? yes!..i'm still optimistic, I guess a few correction patches later the game might be just about right!XDXD
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odin
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Post by odin on Jan 18, 2014 14:23:54 GMT -5
Re-watching the video, I think there are some things you have to keep in mind. One, I don't think these are played on retail units (but either test or debug ones) because they cut out at certain points. It might be due to editing, or something else, but I noticed it. And I have to say, the guy playing was just terrible, so I wouldn't let that be the judge of the final game. My first point is important because with the first NLP, in the video with Nintendo's Iwata, I believe they used special 3DS models as well. I'm no expert, but they definitely don't do game demos with standard hardware (They might have a TV/Video out on those). The 3DS' themselves are Panda units actually, minor correction. The Debugger units are larger white boxes. Partner CTR Debugger units:
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Post by .:[R]Plus:. on Jan 18, 2014 15:38:04 GMT -5
But the rank of this guy is quite high to be that bad...I do hope you're right cause the whole video is like a stressful 40 minute hunt to achieve just ONE single kiss rather than a nice presentation of anything the game has to offer..lol..
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odin
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Post by odin on Jan 18, 2014 16:44:16 GMT -5
I think we're all a little on edge here, given the disappointment across the board. I didn't lose as much as you guys who bought the old packages, but for me, I can't accept an incomplete experience (in terms of having to spend money on a broken game, which factored into the cost of the 3DS). And in this case, I hesitated to pick up NLP solely due to that. If they do fail to deliver again, I don't know, I'd be done with them as well.
I noticed they played it on Christmas Eve 2013, while the title screen gives a year of 2014. Take that how you will, but I think this proves what I said earlier.
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Post by .:[R]Plus:. on Jan 18, 2014 17:15:17 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong it still is a very lovely experience, once you get to know the luxuries that the 3ds version offers it's hard to go back to the previous games..even just from the promos it already feels like NLP+ is closer to home than the first attempt and getting this back while also keeping the new luxuries that NLP offered is exciting.
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odin
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Post by odin on Jan 18, 2014 17:36:57 GMT -5
I know what you mean by luxuries, haha. But I don't look at it that way. Functionally, aside from more events, what would the new version offer besides better graphics? It's the same game underneath, right? (Or maybe it's not to some? ) It's apparent the new team is having trouble, but I wouldn't say they're solely to blame. Making games, especially ones like Love Plus with many (random) variables is chaotic. And it's never a one man deal. Your programmers are easily the most vital part, even moreso than the artist. Uchida and Taro are important, but they're the only people you see. You won't see the guy doing the real work typing out code. And it's my personal opinion, but LP is special to me because it tries things that I don't usually see in your average dating simulation, even over ones like Sakura Taisen. Oh, and one other thing... It'd be nice if anyone could help me decide on which package to get. I'm looking at either Rinko's or Nene's. I'm more relatable to Rinko in real life, but Nene just seems like the mature older girl that fits into my age group (or the oldest anyway).
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Post by .:[R]Plus:. on Jan 18, 2014 18:07:17 GMT -5
Hahahaha yeah... NLP feels like it just needed more refinement and a bit more attention to details. Hence why even these few changes might be just what it takes to pull this through successfully.**fingers crossed**
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odin
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Post by odin on Jan 18, 2014 18:28:56 GMT -5
I kind of share your thoughts about the feelings envoked. I remember an instance of trying LP for the first time without reading guides of any sort. It wasn't pleasant, ha. Once you get the system down though, I like that it becomes second nature. I'm just a little saddened they feel the need to change a proven style on its head.
Rinko or Nene? Please don't make me flip a coin, lol. That's not how I want to decide (It'd be final!).
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Post by .:[R]Plus:. on Jan 18, 2014 20:39:17 GMT -5
Lol, based on my avatar what do you think my recommendation to you would be?XDXD That and since you only feel relatable to Nene cause of the age thing but feel a stronger connection to Rinko..
Which girl is your favorite from the previous games and the one you're thinking of going for?
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odin
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Post by odin on Jan 18, 2014 21:10:51 GMT -5
Rinko was definitely more unique (I found her cheerful personality refreshing because well, you don't expect it), but Nene had the down to earthness. Both are likable. But I think you'll make me lean towards one either way. ^THAT ONE! XD
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Post by .:[R]Plus:. on Jan 19, 2014 4:20:55 GMT -5
...Well Rinko also does share the same voice with Sakura from Card Captor Sakura which happens to be your avatar too,lol
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hiko
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Post by hiko on Jan 22, 2014 21:43:14 GMT -5
Hi guys. I noticed that the official website is now starting to have some "actual" description of the game. It was just a page to sell the Complete Set when I last looked... www.konami.jp/products/newloveplus_plus/
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